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  • #1198
    phpodcastAdM
    Keymaster

    Ask Tim Caron your questions here!

    #13511
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Making my way through the modules and just listened to then force, velocity work podcast. Awesome shit! Loving the material!

    In regards to work, do you do any type of testing to get a baseline of aerobic conditioning? Something like a beep test or modified coopers test? If so what’s your thought on who to test and what kind of threshold are you looking for to determine if work is a quality that needs improvement?I know athletes and gen pop are going to be different especially if we start breaking down their sport and position but I’m curious what your overall thought process is.

    Also, seems like you’re a fan of the high low system. What kind of implements do you use on a low day besides tempo sprints?

    #13518
    timcaron
    Moderator

    Energy System Testing is a really good thought, listen to the latest podcast we did with Sean Hayes. He discussed adding ESD testing:

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/performance-health-podcast/id1620479589?i=1000580129930

    Time is always the most important thing to evaluate on where to go with testing. Space too. In the advent of time and space is limited especially if were working with in a team setting you can use Resting Heart Rate, Heart Rate Recovery, Blood Pressure, Heart Rate Variability:

    RHR – ANS Balance – Stroke Volume
    > 65bpm/min Poor
    < 50bpm/min Excellent

    Blood Pressure – Pressure in Vascular System – Vagal Tone
    Dialostic BP – > 80 Poor
    Dialostic BP – < 70 Excellent

    HRV – System Variability
    < 40ms Poor
    > 75ms Excellent

    HRR – CNS Fatigue
    Parasympathetic Input Between Sympathetic Input
    < 25bpm/min Poor
    > 50bpm/min Excellent

    If anything is poor, you probably need to increase capacity or do more work oriented protocols.

    #18514
    tolzman
    Participant

    Coach Caron,

    I hope all is well. I had a question regarding the programming you provide at Allegiate. Specifically, how do you navigate around members who aren’t as consistent with their training? For instance, if you had a client who has to frequently travel, do you keep them on the block of training they were on when they last came in or do you place them right back in with the rest of the team and the team’s current program?

    I’m currently working with a demographic that is in and out consistently throughout the year. Knowing that they will have issues being consistent, I feel that it would be only right for them to finish an accumulation block prior to jumping into an intensification block but, at times, this might be inconvenient to the member or to the facilitator because, eventually, everyone would end up being on a different block/program and the group atmosphere wouldn’t have the same effect.

    I’m not sure if you experience this much at Allegiate but I’d love to hear your thoughts on this topic.

    Additionally, I think it would be very interesting to hear how you’ve set up the operating procedures because the private sector can be completely different than the consistent training you would expect at the collegiate level.

    Regardless, I look forward to your response.

    Thank you for your time and consideration. I’m

    v/r,

    Chris Tolzman

    #19215
    Timothy Caron
    Keymaster

    1 I hope all is well. I had a question regarding the programming you provide at Allegiate. Specifically, how do you navigate around members who aren’t as consistent with their training? For instance, if you had a client who has to frequently travel, do you keep them on the block of training they were on when they last came in or do you place them right back in with the rest of the team and the team’s current program?

    – Two parts this one: membership based and three day class rotation. All of our members are on membership which gives them unlimited access to the classes, barring clearance (see Movement Screen Module in the Movement Course). This allows for members to be more fluid with their schedule. It also gives credence to macro average over micro organization. What I mean by that is that we encourage getting three sessions per week. Sometimes that may mean a couple of weeks of 4x, a couple of 2x, a couple of 5x, a couple of 1x. The overall average (getting 150 training sessions a year) plays out towards larger goals. This leads to organization of a three day total body split that rotates for a calendar month: workout 1, workout 2, workout 3, workout 1….. So each week you show up every other day you get all three workouts, but if you have to go back to back you can get multiple days and still travel.

    With group based training both sides need to make compromise. You serving the regression to the mean, not the individual. If all your members average 3x a week thats a huge win. If build your program around structural balance and then performance you should be ok. If clients have very difficult schedules combined with very specific needs we push them to private training.

    Nothing is perfect, but this works out well for us. We have around 2.5 average session per member week, 97% retention rate month over month and we continuously show improvement with KPIs of body comp and relative strength. In the end thats all that matters.

    #19954
    tolzman
    Participant

    Coach Caron –

    Thanks for your response. What you explained makes perfect sense and I completely agree that both sides need to compromise. I guess I pictured everyone doing the same thing, much like a team lift in the collegiate setting. If you have members who are training 4-5x per week, I’d imagine that those members would be doing something different than the rest of the group, correct? Additionally, you were explaining that those members might vary their frequency of 1-5x per week. In these cases, are the members staying on the same program until all 12 workouts (3 days/week x 4 weeks) are completed and once they are completed, they move to a new phase?

    I think coaching in the collegiate setting for “x” amount of years can create expectations that, honestly, isn’t feasible in the private setting. I really appreciate your time and consideration. I was assuming that everyone was on an accumulation or intensification block together but it’s near impossible to get everyone on a same schedule like the collegiate setting.

    Thanks again for your time and consideration.

    #19980
    Timothy Caron
    Keymaster

    Check out the Movement Screen module in the movement course as well the nutritional screen in the nutrition course, reality is no one can be on the same program but we need systems in order to control who is doing what and why.

    We base everything off screening: Movement Screen (Forceplate, Nordic, Grip, FMS, Table tests) and Nutrtional Screen (Resting HR, Blood Pressure, Body Comp, Bodymass) – that dictates how we can customize the program in a group or team setting. Third book dives a lot into this a group/team setting.

    #23445
    moserm28
    Member

    Hi,

    I’ve just gone through the ph curriculum and am curious how I go about getting a certificate to turn in for CEUs? I’ve emailed info@phpodcast.com multiple times and filled out the contact is form but haven’t gotten a response back from anyone…

    Can someone contact me to help me figure out how to get a certificate?

    Thank you,
    Marianne

    #26631
    Corey Hobbs
    Participant

    Really enjoying the in the lab series! I think traditional sauna is the way to go as well. I know you mentioned not wanting to turn this into a product placement, but would you be willing to lay out what brands you looked at that met your criteria and what you ultimately picked?

    #27922
    si
    Participant

    Hey Coach, im curious on how you run things for your coaches at your gyms. Do you have a training structure or training continuum that all your coaches follow, or do you allow any and all of your coaches to train ppl as they wish (their own style, etc?

    What’s the structure like briefly, if you have a structure.
    If only certain coaches are allowed to do certain things i.e. write programs and the other coaches have to follow a certain structure – how do you designate that?

    Thank you!

    #28224
    Timothy Caron
    Keymaster

    We run three levels of staff:
    – Associate Coaches – Facilitate a great hour: Coach Classes, Coach Privates, Run Consults, Run Screens
    – Lead Coach – Facilitate a great shift: Program for Private Clients, Lead/Instruct/Support Associate Coaches, Coach Classes, Coach Privates, Run Consults, Run Screens
    – Head Coach – Facilitate a great week: Schedule, Staff Meetings, Training New Staff, Program for Private Clients, Lead/Instruct/Support Lead and Associate Coaches, Coach Classes, Coach Privates, Run Consults, Run Screens

    Each phase is based on both tenure, performance, and acquired skills. We run training off Trainual (Staff Training, which is built around deficiency) and this Curriculum (Staff Education, which is built around learning new concepts). The idea is that we build an infrastructure of capable and autonomous coaches that have a strong support network.

    The idea stems from horizontal leadership structures – you are control when you are in front of a client or group. You need to be competent and confident in that situation. We have structure but dont want to limit creative solutions in complex environments. Simply put, we want our coaches to be critical thinkers and problem solvers with the benefit of systems.

    #43335
    tolzman
    Participant

    Coach Caron –

    **Warning: Loaded Question Below**

    I wanted to pick your brain regarding programming at Allegiate. You’ve eluded to it before but I was hoping you could go into further detail regarding the utilization of your exercise rotations but also the unique set/rep schemes and block emphasis you choose.

    Exercise Rotations
    – What prompted the need to create the exercise rotations?
    – What factors did you use to determine each exercise rotation?
    – How do you utilize them at Allegiate when it pertains to the yearly plan? You’ve mentioned that rotations 1 and 2 are used more frequently than rotation 3. I was hoping to see when and why you choose to insert rotation 3 in the yearly plan.

    Set/Rep Scheme
    – What process do you use to select the set/rep scheme for each block? I’m aware that certain set/rep schemes are more advantageous to use than others during blocks of accumulation or intensification but I was hoping to dig deeper into the process you use to select the scheme for each block.

    Lastly, from following the blocks on Instagram, there are times where you’ll insert a Body Comp block for accumulation, a Speed/Power block for intensification or more challenging blocks like GVT and El Diablo. When you’re planning the year, is there a certain sequence of blocks you adhere to when placing these more unique blocks in the yearly plan?

    I apologize for the loaded questions, maybe this would be more appropriate in a podcast format than a forum post but I thought I’d reach out to see your response. If you have any programming material for Allegiate that you’re willing to post, it would be awesome to review it. Additionally, if you ever decide to sell “50 Allegiate Programs” to the pH members, let me know, it looks like a great resource for this topic.

    As always, thanks for the time and consideration.

    v/r,

    Chris Tolzman

    #43720
    Timothy Caron
    Keymaster

    1 Simple answer is we have an ongoing program where people start and stop at various times, said differently we have no real start or end. Also, it allows a high volume, high-intensity exposure back to back to optimize motor pattern development.

    2 Try to alternate based on stance/grip, position of external load, and angle of body/load to gravity.

    3 The third is less utilized patterns like split squat, deadlift, overhead press, bent over row. We find more ROI from big bang-for-the-buck patterns like squat, trap bar deadlift, dips, pullup variations.

    – We have a Level I Biomechanics course that goes a lot into this coming up in May and September – you should do that.

    4 Keeping average intensity between 8-15% is the primary reason we choose one focal point over another, other consideration is a lot around logistics and being able to execute at scale.

    – Level II Physiology goes into this pretty significant detail. Looking at 2025 to offer that course.

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